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Tuesday, 09/20/2016 1:52:34 PM

Tuesday, September 20, 2016 1:52:34 PM

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So I have only been invested her for a short time. I am currently in the red on this one and very neutral on my thoughts about this John Owen/KJ argument that has been raging for days.

I have spent a couple days digging around and trying to put together a bigger picture and below is what I see.

It appears several people lost a significant amount of money on USAR (Funny how being an OTC they seemed shocked by this). It also appears that KJ (Cardinal) is merely a consultant that has run reports and test on the mineral (gold) content flushing out. The tailings etc. No more connection other than they have been consulted for reporting purposes. How that then negates the water purification company of Cardinal still sort of alludes me as its apples and oranges. I do not see guilty by association. I have seen many people consult for a company that turns out to be shady, that doesnt make the sub-contractor/consultant guilty.

Now Vast Mountain doesnt look to be the greatest investment however the only "crimes" I have found are hear say by angry investors. I cannot find any violations with the SEC or any actual crimes committed. I do see a dismisal of enforcement action by the commission against John Owen.

The SEC stated "This investigation has been completed as to International Energy and Resources, Inc., U.S. American Resources, Inc., and John Owen, against whom we do not intend to recommend any enforcement action by the Commission. We are providing this information under the guidelines in the final paragraph of Securities Act Release No. 5310"

In conclusion (and this is strickly my opinion only) it seems people lost their shirts investing in John Owen, they are bitter and cant let it go, and now they are attacking anyone that has been affiliated with John in anyway.

Links follow:
http://www.vastmountaindevelopment.com/management.html
https://www.facebook.com/vastmountaindevelopment/
http://usarmininggoldscam.com/VastMountainDevIncProspectusCongressMineTails2011.pdf
http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Vast-Mountain-Development-JVA-John-Owen-Don-Brown-Misti-Mathis-John-Somma-Rog-Carrington-Yohann-Anderson/Dallas-Texas-75287/Vast-Mountain-Development-JVA-John-Owen-Don-Brown-Misti-Mathis-John-Somma-Rog-Carrin-656186
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1651756/000165175615000002/xslFormDX01/primary_doc.xml
http://usarmininggoldscam.com/Vast_Mountain_Settlement_2013.pdf
http://usarnews.blogspot.com/
http://usarprojects.blogspot.com/

Find me an official filing that shows a crime has been commited by John Owen. Then show me how consulting/reporting on Johns operations makes KJ a criminal by association.

Again I am neutral and very open to both sides of this argument as I am here to make a buck and could care less about either John or Kevin ultimately. Just simply stating the look of this whole thing from an outsider.

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